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Was this sexual assault? Or just taking advantages of...

Was this sexual assault?  Or just taking advantages of...


Yesterday my wife called back from her fitness club.  She said she will stay behind and told me to pick her up an hour later.  However, I was half way out of the door anyway.  Without her knowing, I went to her club.

I parked right outside of her club and I can see clearly inside through the window.  There were only two men and her left.  Everyone else were gone.  Instead of going in as usual, I stayed in my SUV and waited for her.

After a small chat, one older man (about 50) started to show the other man (about 45) self-defence while my wife watched.  Then the older man asked my wife to try it out with the other guy.  He was showing her from basic to more advance moves.  After a while the other man have to leave.  Now, only my wife and the older man left in the club.

He started to show her how to move away if someone pushes her.  At first he asked my wife to push him at the center of his chest.  Then both sides of his chest.  Of course my wife couldn't do much.  My wife is small and this Caucasian (White man) is much bigger.  He then wanted to show my wife something.  He put his palm just above her breast and pushed her.  Then on the other breast and pushed again.  Back and forth for about ten times.  Then he placed his palm at the center of her chest and asked her to move from side to side to escape.  I can see clearly that his hand was rubbing my wife's breasts as my wife moved from side to side.

I was a bit upset and at the same time very excited.  Should I go in and stop them?  Or...

Then I remembered that my camcorder was in the glove compartment.   I immediately took it out and started shooting.  He repeated the same move again and again.  He was surely taking advantages of my wife.

As I was taking the video, my hand was a bit shaky for my heart was racing fast.  So I went to the seat behind and put the camcorder on the headrest to stabilize the recording.

Now, he asked my wife to hold him tight from behind.  My wife's lovely breasts were pressed hard against his back.  I am sure he was enjoying the softness of her breasts.

Then he showed her how to get out of the hand-lock.  

Now, it was his turn to lock my wife and asked my wife to unlock his grasp. To me, it was just a joke.  How can a small woman (5' 3") like my wife ever got out of such a lock.  As my wife struggled to escape, her butt was rubbing against him.  He was smiling.

Although I was excited.  Enough is enough.  It was almost an hour from the time my wife called me.  So I went in to pick her up.  At the same time, two cleaning ladies showed up as well.

My wife asked if I have just arrived.  I said no.  I told her I saw his hand was pressing her breasts etc... She said “No, he was quite gentle.  He put his hand only below my neck”.

I didn't want to argue then.

So,   I stayed home this morning (asked for a day off from my boss) to review the video.  I paused from time to time and saw his palm was actually on her breast(s) many times as she struggled.  In addition, her butt was rubbing his groin while she struggled from his grasp.

Why did my wife lied to me?
Should I show her the video?

I told a good friend this morning about this.  He suggested that my wife should not even wear a bra next time.

Should I give them a next time?
What was my wife thinking?

[ 本帖最後由 Raider 於 2008-4-17 22:48 編輯 ]
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是怕你擔心吧?
看她還會經常去那里不。
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是怕你擔心吧?
看她還會經常去那里不。
She will go there again tomorrow.  Sometimes, she goes there three times a week (Wednesday and Friday for sure). She said she have to make good use of her membership.  Unless we have things to do.  I usually drop her off and go home.  Since the club is not far from where I live.

I don't know if I should go with her tomorrow or just wait outside like yesterday.

Too bad, I cannot write my story in Chinese.
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I am very curious where are you come from? Can you read Chinese? I will reply in Chinese,because my English is not good enough.
我认为这种事还是要看你的感受,如果你对老婆被人占便宜很在乎,那就应该告诉你老婆,并且禁止她继续去那俱乐部。
不过,既然你是四合院的院友,我想你应该也是比较喜欢这种老婆出墙事件的。
我说说我自己的感受,或许对你有帮助。
如果我的老婆有这样的事,我会很严肃的跟她谈一谈。告诉她,对我来说最重要的是信任。她不应该欺骗我,不管是出于怕我担心,还是出于怕我生气,又或者是她自己害羞,她都不应该欺骗我。夫妻之间一定要相互信任。
然后我挑逗挑逗她,问她去俱乐部是不是开心,对那个老男人有没有好感。如果她喜欢,我会表示我对此不在意,而且很令我兴奋。我会鼓励她穿的更性感点……
而且我会在征得她的同意后,继续去窗外偷看,既满足自己的喜好,也能保证她的安全。
If there is anything you can't understand, tell me.I will try to use my poor English……
2008-4-18 09:32#4
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很同意littleboy85的意見,不過r大應該看不懂簡體字,
特意譯一下,譯得太爛不要介意

I would try to help littleboy85 to translate his opinion in English, even though my English is not good enough either:

The most important point in such issue is your personal feeling. If you do mind other taking advantages of your wife, you should tell your wife and stop her from going to the club.

However, as a member of this forum, I guess you should like this kind of affair. Let me tell you my opinion, maybe you will find it helpful.

If it happen on my wife, I will talk to her seriously and tell her honesty is the most important to me. For easing my worry and anger, or just because it is too shy to tell, she should not lie to me. As a couple, mutual trust is very important.

Then I will try to philander with her, to see if she is happy with such thing and if she likes that guy. If will tell her if she does like that, I will never angry with her and I will be turned on in fact. I will encourage her to wear even sexier.

And I will gain her permission and peek through the window, so that I can be satisfy with what I see, and can protect her at the same time.
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我的意見是如果你想看看婆做些刺激的事,
這是個絕好的機會,
這可是院內很多大大夢寐以求的事。
我想你看見婆這樣,
其實你也十分興奮的,
但你不確定自己是不是真的願意讓婆做所謂不道德的事,
問問自己所想所需,
仔細跟婆討論一下吧。

I do think that if you want to see your wife doing something hot and become more open in the future, this is a very good chance. Many members in this forum dream for that but they never have the chance. I guess you are turned on with what you saw, but you are not sure if you want your wife to do the so called indecent thing. Just ask yourself what do you want and what do you need. Then a serious discussion with your wife is a must.

[ 本帖最後由 爪王 於 2008-4-18 17:54 編輯 ]
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Thank you both from littleboy85 and The King of Claw for your input and suggestions.

I talked to my wife yesterday about this.  She will be going to the club again tonight.  I want to have this settled down before then.

My wife kept on saying that he did not touch her breasts.  It forced me to show her the video.  She was very surprised that I took the video.  We watched the video together.  At the points where he touched her breasts, I played them in slow motion.    She was speechless.  It was clearly shown that he had his palm right on her breasts.  A few of them were actually pressed against and have her breast flattened.

She blushed and said she didn't feel the touches.  Maybe she was too concentrated on struggling to get away. Well, she is my wife.  I cannot push her too far.  All I can do was to accept her explanations.

Yes, what I saw really got me excited.  Many of us talked about wanting to see their wives fondled by other men.  In reality, how many of them actually watched while his wife is being taken advantage of.

I didn’t want to show her the video.  Now, I lost the chance to take more video of her being sexually harassed.

I will have to think about what I want.  Yes, I do want to have the excitement.  However, I do not want to lose control of the situation.
My wife will go to the club again tonight.  She will not quit because she already paid for a whole year of membership.

My wife said she will pay more attention to his touches tonight if he would teach her self-defence.  She told me not to get jealous.  I told her I won’t.  I will stay in the car again to watch.
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有的時候想和做是有很大區別的。
R大已經不再是故事的旁觀者,是局中人了。

還是要多交流吧,
不要讓局勢失控。

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在r大首肯下,我把他的故事翻譯了。
我覺得r大現在就像站在十字路口中,
十分迷茫。
如果是發生在自己身上,
內心也一定會不停的掙扎,
很想聽別人的意見。
希望我小小的翻譯能幫助大家克服言語的障礙,
讓大家可以暢所欲言。

With Raider’s permission, I translated his story in Chinese.
To me, Raider is now standing in the road junction, rather confusing
and not sure which way to go. If this happen to me, my mind will also
struggle a lot and want to listen others’opinion. I hope my little
translation can help you guys to overcome the language barrier, so
that we can exchange our ideas freely.

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這算是性侵犯嗎?還是只算是佔便宜?

昨晚我的老婆在她的健身中心打電話給我,說她會在那裡待晚一點才離開,並
叫我大約一個小時後到健身中心接她。事實上,那時我已出了門。我沒有告訴
她我已在途上,便逕自去了那健身中心。

我在健身中心外泊好車,我可以透過窗戶清楚看到,所有人已經離開了,裡面
只剩下她跟兩個男人。我沒有像平時般進去,只呆在車裡等待。

他們談了好一會,較年長的男人(約50歲)開始向另一個男人(約45歲)
示範自衛術,我的老婆則在一旁觀看。接著年長的男人叫她和那較年輕的一起
練習。他由最基本的示範,一直到進階的。不久較年輕的男人要走了,健身中
心裡只剩下那年長的和我的太太。

他教她如果有人推撞她時該怎樣避開。起初他叫我老婆用手推他的胸口中間的
位置,然後是胸口兩旁。我的太太當然不會成功,跟她的小個子相比,這個白
人的塊頭算是巨型了。接著他又教我太太別的。他把手心放在她乳房上方的位
置並用手推她,又在另一邊的乳房上重覆,來來回回約有十次之多。他又把手
心放在她胸口的正中,並叫她移向左右避開。我可以清楚看到在我老婆移動的
時候,他的手在摩擦她的雙乳。

當時我有點難過,但同時也十分興奮。我該走進去阻止他們嗎?還是...

我想起車上剛巧有一台攝錄機,我立即把它拿出來並開始拍攝。那男人不斷重
覆著他的動作,他一定是在佔我老婆便宜。

在我拍攝的時候,我的心怦怦地跳,手也禁不住抖震。所以我跑到後座,把攝
錄機架在靠頭之上,讓影像穩定下來。

他叫我的妻子從後用手把他緊緊鎖住,她可愛的乳房緊貼住他的背脊,我肯定
他一定在享受她柔軟的雙乳帶來的感觸。

接著他示範怎樣從這種「手鎖」中脫身。

現在到他用手鎖住我的妻子,讓她嘗試逃脫。我感到很可笑,一個像我太太般
嬌小的女人(五呎三吋),又怎可能由這種鎖中脫出?我的太太試著掙扎的同
時,屁股不斷在他身上磨擦,他笑了。

雖然我是很興奮,但那已經足夠了。距離我老婆打電話給我,已差不多一小時
了。我進去與她會合,同時兩個清潔女工出現了。

老婆問我是不是剛剛到達,我說不是。我告訴她我看到那男人用手按她的乳房
等事,她說:「不,他是很規矩的,他只把手放在我的頸下方。」

我不想跟她爭論了。

今早我特別留在家中(向老板告假),反覆觀看那些片段。我不時定格下來,
看到她掙扎時,他的手掌的確在是放在她的乳房上的。另外,她在掙脫他的鎖
時,屁股不停磨擦他的跨下。

我的老婆為甚麼要騙我?

我應該給她看我拍的片段嗎?

今早我把這件事告訴我的好朋友,他說我老婆下次應該不要穿乳罩才是。

我應該讓他們再做這種事嗎?

我老婆到底在想甚麼?

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謝謝littleboy85及爪王的回應及建議。

昨天我跟太太討論過這件事,她說今晚會再去那家健身中心,我想在她再去之
前解決這件事。

老婆不斷說他沒有碰到她的乳房,迫使我向她展示我拍得的片段。她很驚訝我
竟然把那些片段拍下。我們一起看著,到那人快要碰到她的乳房的一刻,我轉
用慢鏡放映。她無言以對,因為那男人的手很明顯是在她的乳房上。有幾下甚
至是用力的按,把她的乳房也壓平了。

她的臉紅了起來,說她感覺不到被碰了,可能是她太專注想要掙脫吧。哎,她
始終是我老婆,我也不可以把她迫得太緊,只好接受她的解釋。

是的,我看到的事真的讓我好興奮。很多院友常常提及想看到自己的老婆被別
的男人撫弄,但事實上,又有多少人真的有機會看到自己的妻子被別人佔便宜


我不想讓她看我拍下的片段的。現在,我已失去拍攝更多她被性騷擾的片段的
機會了。

我將會想想自己到底想要甚麼。我的確很想追求那種刺激的感覺,可是我不想
讓那情況失控。

老婆今晚會再去那健身中心。她不會不再去,因為她已付了全年的會費。她說
如果他再教她自衛術,她會對他的觸碰多加注意。她告訴我不要吃醋,我說我
不會。我今晚仍會待在車裡看。
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Thank you very much The King of Claw for your translations.  It is must appreciated.  I would never be able to write like that.

What happened to my wife on Friday yesterday, I would put it as Part 2 of the story.
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QUOTE:
原帖由 獨角戲 於 2008-4-18 21:41 發表
有的時候想和做是有很大區別的。
R大已經不再是故事的旁觀者,是局中人了。

還是要多交流吧,
不要讓局勢失控。
Thank you very much for your respond.  If I do not control the situation.  It would definitely be out of control.

I will write what happened yesterday as part 2.
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Did you check if your wife was turn on after being touched or after seeing the video (which will remind her of what happened)?

Since you are here you might already like us, who have a tendency to accept the fact that someone taking advantage of your wife is a turn on (in western, this kind is call wife watching). Did you ask yourself are you one of this?

By the way, you shooting her instead of running in to stop her already give her a message that you are turned on with this, only you are still struggling to accept this like a lot of people who first start this lifestyle of wife watching. Once you are horny enough to overcome jealousy then you will have fun.

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